Post by Lé Badger on Oct 23, 2012 18:41:12 GMT
I don't really know a lot about these but I'll try my best and hopefully I will learn it upon time.
This here is a fictional conflict between Turkish forces and Syrian forces, let's say, just in the middle of the Civil War going around. (only inspiration lol) Syrian forces had done numerous aerial attacks to the Turkish borders and as such, it was time to intercept.
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Turkish Army manages to retaliate a fairly advanced and carefully-established force, consisted of: :
Infantry:
Ground vehicles:
Aerial forces:
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Syrian Army manages to retaliate:
Infantry:
Ground vehicles:
Aerial forces:
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While the Turkish were very prepared for such an attack, the Syrians were not as they had took enough losses due to the resistance in the city. The resistance in the city of Damascus comprises of:
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The Sword of Annihilation
The Turkish forces decides to use their main advantage: Superior air force. As the 5 F-4 interceptors lead the way and the 27 F-16 multiroles (Tier 2) follow them, they find themselves in dogfight with the Syrian air force: 15 MiG-29 Fulcrums multiroles and 5 MiG-25 Foxbat interceptors, all are which mostly inferior compared to Turkish air force. The majority of the Syrian air force is quickly shot down by Turkish and only 6 Fulcrums and 2 Foxbats manage to get out alive, all being heavily damaged. Homever, victory cannot be achieved without sacrifice: 6 of the F-16s are downed and 3 of the F-4s are also downed.
And here comes the snow: All of the ground forces of the Turkish army begins a quick and swift Blitzkrieg: The Jeeps strike in a manner similar to hit-and-run, and the passengers quickly bail out. Then the M2 Bradleys arrive and support the troopers. The troopers quickly lay down some fire and try to eliminate possible ATs. Then the MBTs arrive and spew their cannon fire on them. The battles are done quickly, swiftly, and using many unpredictable ways: The Syrian forces which are dug in deep are shocked by this quick Blitzkrieg. 50 standard issue troopers, 25 machine gunners, 10 snipers are lost at the Syrian side, but this is only the first contact. Only 18 standard-issue troopers are lost at the Turkish side, simply because of the machine gunners.
As the skies are now clear for the Turkish air force, the Bayraktar and Heron UAVs quickly take off and begin their duties. They scout targets for the Turkish forces.
For now, the Syrians' strategies are simple: Dig in deep and hold the point, by any and all means. Homever, to support the defense, Ababil UAVs quickly take off and try to scan the area of enemies. 5 of them are taken down by MANPADS, though.
Tunguska SPAAGs are called and are in hiding. They are waiting for the attackers to come. All other ground vehicles are also called to the defense.
Just before the attack, the Uragan MLRS systems use the info, which is somewhat insufficient, to strike the incoming forces: It strikes the Turkish forces succesfully but is not very effective: Only 20 standard issue troopers, 8 snipers, 4 OTOKAR Cobras, 1 Leopard 2A4 is lost.
For the Turkish forces, it is meanless to attack as the ATs and MGs will quickly shred them to threads before they can strike. They call in 10 F-4s (attackers).
Strike while the iron is hot: The 6 Fulcrums multiroles and 2 Foxbats eliminate all of them succesfully before they can strike. Homever, just after that, all of the 21 F-16s are called and they quickly eliminate the threat. Homever, this is actually a trap: Tunguskas succesfully eliminates 8 of the F-16s when they fall in the trap. While the 3 F-16s are RTB the other 10 quickly begins their maneuvers and succesfully take down 6 of the Tunguskas. Another one of them is down in the meanwhile.
Using the information from Herons and Bayraktars, the M-270 MLRS systems spew their rockets onto the enemy: It is a huge success and the listed enemies are downed with the rockets:
And the bloody skirmish begins: All Turkish forces rush against their targets. Many are pinned down and killed by MGs, while MGs are also eliminated by some grenadiers which utilize G3A3 battle rifles but also the underslung HK79 grenade launchers. The whole place is a mess of blood, meat, metal and bullets. The Turkish forces mainly relies on their grenadiers and snipers to take care of the ATs and MGs. The Turkish succesfully captures their positions, and Syrian forces' casualties are listed here after the skirmish(including the ones killed by the MLRS):
Homever, the death toll on the Turkish forces isn't small either after this bloody skirmish:
The remnants of the Syrian army retreats after this attack, to an unknown place... The Turkish forces would gain the favor of the resistance in the city and these rebels would agree to help the Turkish forces. It seemed that all was soon to be over, as the Syrian army was much little of a threat now...
...But it wasn't.
The Turkish forces saw three smaller-scale missiles in the air. They were Scuds, and each one would reveal four of their warheads, each one loaded with conventional warheads struck their targets. The already-huge death toll grew even more for the Turkish forces, and after this only these units would be left:
Infantry:
Ground vehicles:
Aerial forces:
Resistance units were unaffected by it.
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The Stage of Apocalypse
This was it: The final push to the lair of the devil. With the remaining units and the resistance units, the path was clear.
The Syrians were homever not gonna let it go too easily. They took heavy losses at the battle and these were the remnants from it:
Infantry:
Ground vehicles:
Aerial forces:
As the CN-235 EW planes quickly ascended the Turkish troops were converged around the location. They were yet to notice by the enemy.
The CN-235s activated the jammers: Such heavy jamming that it would disable the automatic SAMs of the Tunguskas and the MANPADS too. The F-16s quickly strike and eliminate all Tunguskas and MANPADS. The Herons and Bayraktars pop up. They indicate the targets for the MLRS. The MLRS strikes them very hard and makes the forces' jobs easier.
The ground forces apply the very same Blitzkrieg tactics. This time, much more brutal and much faster.
The Syrian army is entirely shocked with this: And as such, their forces are soon eliminated, with both sides taking massive losses. The Turkish forces are victorious.
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While the Syrian army was much more massive number-wise, their armies were not very advanced and were usually Tier 0. It's not like the Turkish forces had too advanced forces either but theirs were still much more advanced than the Syrians.
Not only that the Turkish forces were tactically and technologically superior to the Syrians, the Syrians had also developed very poor strategies. Their strategies, as expected, prove to be not worthy enough.
----------------------
There might be a little bit inconsistencies and stuff, but I have tried my best at it.
Also, this is how I show my difference: When I'm writing, I write long, as you can see.
This here is a fictional conflict between Turkish forces and Syrian forces, let's say, just in the middle of the Civil War going around. (only inspiration lol) Syrian forces had done numerous aerial attacks to the Turkish borders and as such, it was time to intercept.
-----------------------------------
Turkish Army manages to retaliate a fairly advanced and carefully-established force, consisted of: :
Infantry:
300 standard issue troopers with G-3A3 battle rifles
75 grenadiers with G-3A3 battle rifles, fitted with HK-79 grenade launchers
60 snipers with G-3A3ZF
40 LMG gunners with HK-21s
25 HMG gunners with MG-3s
34 CQ combatants with G3KA4s
45 AT troopers with RPG-7s
32 MANPADS with FIM-92 Stingers
18 M29 Mortars
(All Tier 2, FYI)
75 grenadiers with G-3A3 battle rifles, fitted with HK-79 grenade launchers
60 snipers with G-3A3ZF
40 LMG gunners with HK-21s
25 HMG gunners with MG-3s
34 CQ combatants with G3KA4s
45 AT troopers with RPG-7s
32 MANPADS with FIM-92 Stingers
18 M29 Mortars
(All Tier 2, FYI)
Ground vehicles:
15 OTOKAR Cobra Heavy Jeeps
25 Leopard 2A4 MBTs
31 M2 Bradley APCs
15 M42 Duster SPAAGs
25 M113 ''Atılgan'' SAM platforms
18 M270 MLRS
25 Leopard 2A4 MBTs
31 M2 Bradley APCs
15 M42 Duster SPAAGs
25 M113 ''Atılgan'' SAM platforms
18 M270 MLRS
Aerial forces:
27 F-16 multiroles (Tier 2)
10 F-4 Phantoms, converted to attackers
5 F-4 Phantom interceptors
15 Bayraktar Small UAVs
6 Heron Heavy UAVs
10 UH-1 Hueys, converted to light gunships
8 AH-1 Super Cobra Medium Gunships (Tier 2)
10 Agusta/Westland T-129 Medium Gunships
10 AS-532 Cougar medium helicopters (each one carries 20 standard-issue troopers)
8 CN-235 Electronic Warfare aircrafts
10 F-4 Phantoms, converted to attackers
5 F-4 Phantom interceptors
15 Bayraktar Small UAVs
6 Heron Heavy UAVs
10 UH-1 Hueys, converted to light gunships
8 AH-1 Super Cobra Medium Gunships (Tier 2)
10 Agusta/Westland T-129 Medium Gunships
10 AS-532 Cougar medium helicopters (each one carries 20 standard-issue troopers)
8 CN-235 Electronic Warfare aircrafts
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Syrian Army manages to retaliate:
Infantry:
450 standard issue riflemen with AK-103s
120 snipers with SVD Dragunovs
120 machine gunners with RPKs
70 CQ combatants with Skorpion vz.61s
67 AT troopers with RPG-18s
60 MANPADS with 9K34 Strela-3s
120 snipers with SVD Dragunovs
120 machine gunners with RPKs
70 CQ combatants with Skorpion vz.61s
67 AT troopers with RPG-18s
60 MANPADS with 9K34 Strela-3s
Ground vehicles:
20 T-72 MBTs
20 PT-76 Light Tanks
25 BMP-1 IFVs
12 BM-27 Uragan MLRS
13 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs (with SAMs too) (Tier 2)
20 PT-76 Light Tanks
25 BMP-1 IFVs
12 BM-27 Uragan MLRS
13 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs (with SAMs too) (Tier 2)
Aerial forces:
15 MiG-29 Fulcrum multiroles
7 MiG-25 Foxbat interceptors
20 Mi-24 Hind Heavy Gunships
10 Mi-8 Hips, converted to medium gunships
17 Ababil Small UAVs
7 MiG-25 Foxbat interceptors
20 Mi-24 Hind Heavy Gunships
10 Mi-8 Hips, converted to medium gunships
17 Ababil Small UAVs
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While the Turkish were very prepared for such an attack, the Syrians were not as they had took enough losses due to the resistance in the city. The resistance in the city of Damascus comprises of:
190 infantrymen with AK-47s
55 AT Troopers with RPG-2s
47 MG gunners with RPKs
50 snipers with SVD Dragunovs
71 CQ combatants with SA vz.23s
(All Tier -2, FYI)
55 AT Troopers with RPG-2s
47 MG gunners with RPKs
50 snipers with SVD Dragunovs
71 CQ combatants with SA vz.23s
(All Tier -2, FYI)
-------------------
The Sword of Annihilation
The Turkish forces decides to use their main advantage: Superior air force. As the 5 F-4 interceptors lead the way and the 27 F-16 multiroles (Tier 2) follow them, they find themselves in dogfight with the Syrian air force: 15 MiG-29 Fulcrums multiroles and 5 MiG-25 Foxbat interceptors, all are which mostly inferior compared to Turkish air force. The majority of the Syrian air force is quickly shot down by Turkish and only 6 Fulcrums and 2 Foxbats manage to get out alive, all being heavily damaged. Homever, victory cannot be achieved without sacrifice: 6 of the F-16s are downed and 3 of the F-4s are also downed.
And here comes the snow: All of the ground forces of the Turkish army begins a quick and swift Blitzkrieg: The Jeeps strike in a manner similar to hit-and-run, and the passengers quickly bail out. Then the M2 Bradleys arrive and support the troopers. The troopers quickly lay down some fire and try to eliminate possible ATs. Then the MBTs arrive and spew their cannon fire on them. The battles are done quickly, swiftly, and using many unpredictable ways: The Syrian forces which are dug in deep are shocked by this quick Blitzkrieg. 50 standard issue troopers, 25 machine gunners, 10 snipers are lost at the Syrian side, but this is only the first contact. Only 18 standard-issue troopers are lost at the Turkish side, simply because of the machine gunners.
As the skies are now clear for the Turkish air force, the Bayraktar and Heron UAVs quickly take off and begin their duties. They scout targets for the Turkish forces.
For now, the Syrians' strategies are simple: Dig in deep and hold the point, by any and all means. Homever, to support the defense, Ababil UAVs quickly take off and try to scan the area of enemies. 5 of them are taken down by MANPADS, though.
Tunguska SPAAGs are called and are in hiding. They are waiting for the attackers to come. All other ground vehicles are also called to the defense.
Just before the attack, the Uragan MLRS systems use the info, which is somewhat insufficient, to strike the incoming forces: It strikes the Turkish forces succesfully but is not very effective: Only 20 standard issue troopers, 8 snipers, 4 OTOKAR Cobras, 1 Leopard 2A4 is lost.
For the Turkish forces, it is meanless to attack as the ATs and MGs will quickly shred them to threads before they can strike. They call in 10 F-4s (attackers).
Strike while the iron is hot: The 6 Fulcrums multiroles and 2 Foxbats eliminate all of them succesfully before they can strike. Homever, just after that, all of the 21 F-16s are called and they quickly eliminate the threat. Homever, this is actually a trap: Tunguskas succesfully eliminates 8 of the F-16s when they fall in the trap. While the 3 F-16s are RTB the other 10 quickly begins their maneuvers and succesfully take down 6 of the Tunguskas. Another one of them is down in the meanwhile.
Using the information from Herons and Bayraktars, the M-270 MLRS systems spew their rockets onto the enemy: It is a huge success and the listed enemies are downed with the rockets:
60 standard issue troopers
25 LMGs
10 Snipers
2 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs
5 T-72 MBTs
3 BMP-1 IFVs
3 PT-76 Light Tank
5 Hinds
2 Hip light gunships
25 LMGs
10 Snipers
2 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs
5 T-72 MBTs
3 BMP-1 IFVs
3 PT-76 Light Tank
5 Hinds
2 Hip light gunships
And the bloody skirmish begins: All Turkish forces rush against their targets. Many are pinned down and killed by MGs, while MGs are also eliminated by some grenadiers which utilize G3A3 battle rifles but also the underslung HK79 grenade launchers. The whole place is a mess of blood, meat, metal and bullets. The Turkish forces mainly relies on their grenadiers and snipers to take care of the ATs and MGs. The Turkish succesfully captures their positions, and Syrian forces' casualties are listed here after the skirmish(including the ones killed by the MLRS):
150 standard issue troopers
60 LMGs
30 Snipers
27 ATs
20 MANPADS
3 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs
6 T-72 MBTs
5 BMP-1 IFVs
5 PT-76 Light Tank
2 BM-27 Uragan MLRS
6 Hinds
2 Hip light gunships
60 LMGs
30 Snipers
27 ATs
20 MANPADS
3 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs
6 T-72 MBTs
5 BMP-1 IFVs
5 PT-76 Light Tank
2 BM-27 Uragan MLRS
6 Hinds
2 Hip light gunships
Homever, the death toll on the Turkish forces isn't small either after this bloody skirmish:
85 standard issue troopers
17 grenadiers
10 AT Troopers
8 LMGs
5 HMGs
3 OTOKAR Cobra Heavy Jeeps
5 Leopard 2A4 MBTs
7 M2 Bradley IFVs
4 SuperCobras
3 Hueys
17 grenadiers
10 AT Troopers
8 LMGs
5 HMGs
3 OTOKAR Cobra Heavy Jeeps
5 Leopard 2A4 MBTs
7 M2 Bradley IFVs
4 SuperCobras
3 Hueys
The remnants of the Syrian army retreats after this attack, to an unknown place... The Turkish forces would gain the favor of the resistance in the city and these rebels would agree to help the Turkish forces. It seemed that all was soon to be over, as the Syrian army was much little of a threat now...
...But it wasn't.
The Turkish forces saw three smaller-scale missiles in the air. They were Scuds, and each one would reveal four of their warheads, each one loaded with conventional warheads struck their targets. The already-huge death toll grew even more for the Turkish forces, and after this only these units would be left:
Infantry:
177 standard issue troopers with G-3A3 battle rifles
58 grenadiers with G-3A3 battle rifles, fitted with HK-79 grenade launchers
52 snipers with G-3A3ZF
32 LMG gunners with HK-21s
20 HMG gunners with MG-3s
34 CQ combatants with G3KA4s
30 AT troopers with RPG-7s
25 MANPADS with FIM-92 Stingers
10 M29 Mortars
(All Tier 2, FYI)
58 grenadiers with G-3A3 battle rifles, fitted with HK-79 grenade launchers
52 snipers with G-3A3ZF
32 LMG gunners with HK-21s
20 HMG gunners with MG-3s
34 CQ combatants with G3KA4s
30 AT troopers with RPG-7s
25 MANPADS with FIM-92 Stingers
10 M29 Mortars
(All Tier 2, FYI)
Ground vehicles:
8 OTOKAR Cobra Heavy Jeeps
16 Leopard 2A4 MBTs
18 M2 Bradley APCs
12 M42 Duster SPAAGs
18 M113 ''Atılgan'' SAM platforms
13 M270 MLRS
16 Leopard 2A4 MBTs
18 M2 Bradley APCs
12 M42 Duster SPAAGs
18 M113 ''Atılgan'' SAM platforms
13 M270 MLRS
Aerial forces:
6 F-16 multiroles (Tier 2)
2 F-4 Phantom interceptors
15 Bayraktar Small UAVs
6 Heron Heavy UAVs
7 UH-1 Hueys, converted to light gunships
4 AH-1 Super Cobra Medium Gunships (Tier 2)
8 Agusta/Westland T-129 Medium Gunships
10 AS-532 Cougar medium helicopters (each one carries 20 standard-issue troopers)
8 CN-235 Electronic Warfare aircrafts
2 F-4 Phantom interceptors
15 Bayraktar Small UAVs
6 Heron Heavy UAVs
7 UH-1 Hueys, converted to light gunships
4 AH-1 Super Cobra Medium Gunships (Tier 2)
8 Agusta/Westland T-129 Medium Gunships
10 AS-532 Cougar medium helicopters (each one carries 20 standard-issue troopers)
8 CN-235 Electronic Warfare aircrafts
Resistance units were unaffected by it.
------------------------
The Stage of Apocalypse
This was it: The final push to the lair of the devil. With the remaining units and the resistance units, the path was clear.
The Syrians were homever not gonna let it go too easily. They took heavy losses at the battle and these were the remnants from it:
Infantry:
250 standard issue riflemen with AK-103s
80 snipers with SVD Dragunovs
35 machine gunners with RPKs
70 CQ combatants with Skorpion vz.61s
40 AT troopers with RPG-18s
40 MANPADS with 9K34 Strela-3s
80 snipers with SVD Dragunovs
35 machine gunners with RPKs
70 CQ combatants with Skorpion vz.61s
40 AT troopers with RPG-18s
40 MANPADS with 9K34 Strela-3s
Ground vehicles:
14 T-72 MBTs
15 PT-76 Light Tanks
20 BMP-1 IFVs
10 BM-27 Uragan MLRS
4 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs (with SAMs too) (Tier 2)
15 PT-76 Light Tanks
20 BMP-1 IFVs
10 BM-27 Uragan MLRS
4 9K22 Tunguska SPAAGs (with SAMs too) (Tier 2)
Aerial forces:
14 Mi-24 Hind Heavy Gunships
8 Mi-8 Hips, converted to medium gunships
7 Ababil Small UAVs
8 Mi-8 Hips, converted to medium gunships
7 Ababil Small UAVs
As the CN-235 EW planes quickly ascended the Turkish troops were converged around the location. They were yet to notice by the enemy.
The CN-235s activated the jammers: Such heavy jamming that it would disable the automatic SAMs of the Tunguskas and the MANPADS too. The F-16s quickly strike and eliminate all Tunguskas and MANPADS. The Herons and Bayraktars pop up. They indicate the targets for the MLRS. The MLRS strikes them very hard and makes the forces' jobs easier.
The ground forces apply the very same Blitzkrieg tactics. This time, much more brutal and much faster.
The Syrian army is entirely shocked with this: And as such, their forces are soon eliminated, with both sides taking massive losses. The Turkish forces are victorious.
------------------
While the Syrian army was much more massive number-wise, their armies were not very advanced and were usually Tier 0. It's not like the Turkish forces had too advanced forces either but theirs were still much more advanced than the Syrians.
Not only that the Turkish forces were tactically and technologically superior to the Syrians, the Syrians had also developed very poor strategies. Their strategies, as expected, prove to be not worthy enough.
----------------------
There might be a little bit inconsistencies and stuff, but I have tried my best at it.
Also, this is how I show my difference: When I'm writing, I write long, as you can see.